Ep. 3 - Regenerative Business and Living Systems Design with Tre Cates

Ep. 3 - Regenerative Business and Living Systems Design with Tre Cates

In this episode of Ruminations, we sit down with Tre Cates, founder of nRhythm (https://nrhythm.co), to explore what it really means to build a regenerative organization. Tre unpacks the difference between managing complexity and trying to control it, and shares how his journey with the Savory Institute—and the early development of the Hub model—shaped his thinking. From living systems design to organizational health, this conversation invites us to rethink the way we structure our teams, our businesses, and our definitions of success. Tre Cates is the founder of nRhythm, a consulting firm helping organizations around the world design systems that align with the principles of life itself—complexity, emergence, resilience, and interconnectedness. +++ ALL EPISODES: 👉 https://savory.global/podcast JOIN THE COMMUNITY + GET MEMBERS-ONLY PERKS: 👉 https://savory.global/member GET INVOLVED WITH SAVORY INSTITUTE: 👉 https://savory.global/find-your-path +++ ⏱ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intro 04:15 Welcome Tre Cates 05:42 Understanding the Cartesian Split 08:38 Complexity in Agriculture and Beyond 16:54 Managing Complexity vs. Control 28:27 Patterns and Principles of Living Systems 32:09 nRhythm's Approach to Regenerative Organizations 43:27 Foundational Beliefs and Operational Identity 44:52 Monitoring Health and Emergence 51:20 Understanding Governance Structures 53:00 Creating Conditions for Success 55:42 Monitoring for Emergence 56:55 Embracing Emergence in Organizations 01:11:34 Case Study: Transforming a Boutique Firm 01:18:44 The Savory Hub Network and Decentralization 01:26:13 Influential Thinkers and Schools of Thought 01:33:19 Future Patterns and Societal Shifts 01:44:00 Final Thoughts +++ 🎙️ This episode is brought to you by Savory’s Regenerating Members, a global community restoring over 100 million acres through holistic management. Join today for just $10/month and help regenerate 400+ acres every year: 👉 https://savory.global/member Want to sponsor an episode? 👉 https://savory.global/podcast +++ 📲 FIND US ON SOCIAL: • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/savoryinstitute • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/savory-institute/ +++ HAVE A GUEST SUGGESTION? We’d love to hear your thoughts: 👉 https://www.tfaforms.com/5169997 +++ Music written & performed by https://www.youtube.com/@travismcnamara9313