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Neurons and Networks | The Moonshot Podcast
This episode of The Moonshot Podcast explores what the mind can teach us about technology—and what technology can teach us about the mind.
Astro Teller first sits down with Sarah Laszlo from Valkyrie, a never-before-shared project that explored new ways to build energy-efficient AI models by studying the formation of biological brains like the fruit fly’s.
He then chats with Obi Felten from Project Amber, a mental health moonshot that aimed to design an affordable EEG device that could detect and measure conditions like anxiety and depression.
0:00 - Intro
01:19 - Inside Project Valkyrie with Sarah Laszlo
03:30 - Mapping a fruit fly’s brain in 3D
05:21 - Project Valkyrie’s moonshot
06:44 - How biological brains could inspire foundation models
09:25 - The Valkyrie team’s first explorations
11:20 - Translating a fruit fly’s brain into a flying model for Wing
14:11 - Reservoir Computing explained simply
15:47 - From insect brains to agriculture
17:36 - Why Valkyrie hit a roadblock
20:37 - How Sarah wound down Valkyrie
22:32 - Up close with a 3D-printed fruit fly neuron
24:40 - Bringing “unbridled joy” to moonshot-taking
27:58 - Inside Project Amber with Obi Felten
29:10 - Why mental health needs a moonshot
32:11 - The "What-If": Can you actually measure depression?
34:49 - The challenges of mental health measurement
36:17 - Other Amber explorations
39:39 - A look at Amber’s original prototypes
46:50 - The "Kill Criteria." Knowing when to walk away
50:33 - Sharing Amber’s findings with the world
52:56 - Flourish Labs: Obi’s next chapter
54:45 - Obi’s early memories from X
57:44 - Final thoughts
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Hosted by Astro Teller, Captain of Moonshots, The Moonshot Podcast goes behind the scenes with creators and inventors trying to find radical solutions and breakthrough technologies to the world’s biggest problems. These are the untold stories of innovation from 16 years of Alphabet’s moonshot factory.
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