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The Middle East After the Iran War w/ Trita Parsi
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In the latest episode of Always at War, Courtney and Alex sit down with Quincy Institute co-founder and Executive Vice President Trita Parsi, an expert on Iran and US-Iranian relations. Trita has spent years warning Washington against a disastrous war with Iran — and now, he's speaking out in favor of the US diplomatic efforts to end it.
Trita's effective advocacy has made him a target of very same neoconservative voices who pushed for this war in the first place — he explains to Courtney and Alex why Laura Loomer, the Free Press, and other hawkish voices are pushing for his deportation, and why Washington's war party sees the Quincy Institute as such a threat. Trita also breaks down why he's increasingly bullish the US-Iran MOU can hold, what makes the Trump team's efforts to restrain Israel different from Biden's, and why a new Middle East security architecture percolating right now — without America at the center — is a massive vindication of the restraint approach to the Middle East.
After the interview, Courtney and Alex take a quick look at the Wall Street Journal editorial board's latest pro-war screed, and explain why the op-ed class is getting more desperate (hint: it's because they're losing!)
00:00 Introduction
02:31 Welcome Trita Parsi
03:45 Can the MOU survive Netanyahu's next move?
08:29 Does Trump's pressure on Israel differ from Biden's?
12:47 A new Middle East security architecture is forming faster than expected
17:51 2026 vs. 2015: what's different about this Iran deal
23:34 Democrats repeating Republicans' JCPOA playbook
28:51 What a durable deal requires — including from Iran
31:43 The neocon campaign to deport Trita Parsi and why it backfired
34:44 Post-interview debrief + support the QI First Amendment Fund
40:17 Dissecting the WSJ's pro-war op-ed
50:21 Trump says Iran can have ballistic missiles
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Why is America seemingly always at war? Join the Quincy Institute’s Courtney Rawlings and Alex Jordan as they expose the monied interests, outdated ideologies, and entrenched powers that have driven the U.S. to wage nearly 400 wars and interventions.
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