'A new order is gradually being born'
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'A new order is gradually being born'

The United States and China dominate the conversation about global power, but they aren't the whole story. "I truly think a new order is gradually being born, one that is much more pluralist, many more coalitions, a weird mix of formal and informal groupings, lots of nonstate actors, but probably greater problem-solving capacity than the UN system has shown," New America CEO Anne-Marie Slaughter tells Council President and CEO Leslie Vinjamuri on Deep Dish. Listen to this week's episode on our channel or wherever you get your podcasts for more on why middle powers may play a bigger role in shaping what comes next.