Council on Foreign Relations 125d ago

The war in Ukraine is redefining modern conflict and what it takes to win a war. Ushering in a new era of mass warfare and blurring the idea of a front line, millions of low-cost drones are swarming the battlefield—striking, sensing, and reshaping the nature of combat in real time. In this episode, we explore how innovation under fire is transforming power and forcing nations to rethink strategy and military capacity. This episode was originally released by Why It Matters on February 24, 2026. Find us Autonomous Ukraine: We Are in a New Era of Warfare - https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/why-it-matters/autonomous-ukraine-we-are-in-a-new-era-of-warfare Why It Matters - https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/why-it-matters Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/39tmKmi Spotify - https://spoti.fi/3ACtkTq Google Podcasts - https://bit.ly/2W5Ef94 Host Gabrielle Sierra Podcast Host and Director of Podcasting Episode Guests Michael C. Horowitz Senior Fellow for Technology and Innovation, CFR Erin D. Dumbacher Stanton Nuclear Security Senior Fellow, CFR Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/cfr The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is an independent, nonpartisan membership organization, think tank, and publisher. Visit the CFR website: http://www.cfr.org Follow CFR on X: https://x.com/cfr_org Follow CFR on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/councilonforeignrelations Follow CFR on Instagram: @CFR_org