Munich Security Conference 79d ago

In this first episode of "The Art of Diplomacy", Florence Gaub speaks with Rafael Grossi, Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency. At the center of some of the most sensitive diplomatic efforts today, Grossi operates in a world where pressure is constant and stakes are existential. In this conversation, he reflects on what it takes to stay focused and effective under these conditions, both physically and mentally. And why discipline, restraint, and self-awareness are essential tools of the trade. Grossi speaks about the challenge of remaining impartial in highly polarized conflicts, and the loneliness that can come with it. He explains why listening, empathy, and the ability to see the world through the eyes of your counterpart are not just ideals, but practical necessities in negotiation. Drawing on decades of experience, from nuclear diplomacy to conflict mediation, Grossi offers a candid look at what diplomacy actually demands: patience, preparation, and the ability to hold your ground without escalating tension.